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Josh Groban Gets Vulnerable: "I felt like a talentless piece of SH*T!" How He Battled Inner Demons & Found Happiness

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September 1, 2025
The School of Greatness
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When the applause stops: Josh Groban on slowing down, finding joy, and reinventing a career

Fame does strange things to a person. For Josh Groban, the trajectory that sent him from a shy teenager onstage with Celine Dion to sold-out arenas around the world also produced a restless engine that rarely paused long enough to appreciate the scenery. Years into a career that brought awards, Broadway roles, and millions of records sold, Groban started to notice a quieter truth: achievement without presence can feel hollow.

The cost of early success and the value of being present

Groban describes early happiness as a binary ledger—either he had "done the job" and could leave content, or he had failed and would punish himself with fierce self-criticism. That drive delivered results but also robbed him of the slow accrual of joy. He compares the aftermath of a perfect show—when the stage lights dim and the crowd still roars—to an interior shame spiral. Those evenings taught him that the external markers of success do not always align with inner peace.

What shifted was not an abandonment of ambition but a reorientation toward presence. Groban began to treasure weeks of simple, connective moments—laughter with his nephew, quiet dinners with family—moments he now calls "bottleable." Learning to bottle the good moments, he says, made the next creative choices clearer and more honest.

Simplicity as a performance technique

Onstage, Groban's remedy for nerves is almost pragmatic: reduce complexity to a single task. When the crowd, the venue, the expectations and the internal critic all crowd in, he takes the next lyric and tells its story as simply as possible. That back-to-basics checklist—line by line, one moment at a time—becomes a tool belt for performance anxiety, a method honed through years of hair-raising live shows.

This approach is not denial of craft; it is the cleanest expression of it. By prioritizing honest storytelling over impressing an imagined audience, the performance becomes sustainable. Confidence, he says, arrives through accumulated experience. Each night survived with dignity supplies another instrument in the belt, a machete to cut through doubt when it shows up again.

Reclaiming play: side quests, hobbies, and humility

Groban identifies a surprising way to recalibrate: pursue things that are not designed to be lucrative or strategically brilliant. He calls these "side quests." For him, they have included Broadway, comedy bits, and even small, tactile pleasures—buying and selling baseball cards on eBay, learning simple magic tricks, ripping into hobby boxes with friends. Those pursuits restore a sense of curiosity and remove the constant scoreboard of his public life.

There is an important humility in that shift. Groban remembers the ignorance-bliss of his breakout moment with Celine Dion: no rider, no reverb requests—just a kid enjoying an improbable chance. Reinvoking that early openness has become a method for quieting the overworked internal critic.

From personal healing to collective giving

That inward work has pushed Groban outward. Find Your Light, his foundation, funnels resources into arts education at a time when school arts programs are under threat. The foundation focuses on small but meaningful grants—paintbrushes, instruments, after-school programs—that can be catalytic for young people. Groban frames philanthropy as reciprocal teaching: mentoring helps him remember what he has learned and reveals lessons he didn’t know he could still learn.

His sense of success has evolved. Rather than scoreboard metrics alone, success now includes building a legacy that keeps doors open for the next generation. It includes being an uncle who can create memories and being a collaborator who follows goosebumps rather than market predictions.

Practical takeaways from a performer who learned to slow down

  • Reduce complexity under pressure: when overwhelmed, focus on the immediate line or task in front of you.
  • Build a tool belt of coping skills: confidence arrives through repeated exposure and small victories.
  • Pursue side quests: hobbies and playful detours replenish creative energy and curiosity.
  • Prioritize feeling over outcome: follow projects that give you goosebumps, not just the ones that promise a hit.
  • Invest in future creatives: small investments in arts education yield outsized emotional and social returns.

Groban’s story is a reminder that a long career does not immunize someone from doubt—it simply gives them more opportunities to practice getting through it. The work of redefining success—choosing presence over perpetual pursuit—can be messy and counterintuitive. Yet the most profound transformation he describes is not a career pivot; it is an ethical one: to be kinder to himself and to use his platform to keep light on for others.

There is no neat moral or simple prescription at the end of his reflections, only a steadier rhythm: stay curious, bottle the good moments, and share the access you were lucky to receive. In that quiet reframing, an artist who once measured life in milestones now measures it in small, luminous pockets of time—and the work, finally, feels worth doing.

Insights

  • When nerves overwhelm, narrow attention to the next word or line and tell that small story honestly.
  • Treat confidence like a toolkit: compile strategies through experience rather than chasing permanent certainty.
  • Designate creative work that is just for you, not for an audience or label, to preserve artistic freedom.
  • Make space for side interests to replenish creative reserves and reduce the stakes of primary work.
  • Invest in arts education with targeted grants because modest funding can sustain programs and unlock young talent.
  • Practice grateful, slow presence with loved ones to accumulate meaningful memories that counteract career-driven regret.

Timecodes

00:00 Intro and Summit of Greatness announcement
00:02 Slowing down and bottling meaningful moments
00:06 Happiness, gratitude, and the cost of early success
00:07 The Celine Dion Grammy moment and Carnegie Mellon choice
00:14 Confidence, experience, and building a toolkit
00:20 Simplicity as a performance tool and managing nerves
00:23 Post-show vulnerability and mental health reflections
00:32 Side quests, hobbies, and reclaiming play
00:40 Goosebumps: creative choices and family moments
00:55 Find Your Light Foundation and arts education philanthropy
01:02 Upcoming shows, hidden gems release, and closing thoughts

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