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From The Ramsey Show

Your Financial Chaos Ends Today

2:16:53
October 13, 2025
The Ramsey Show
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Who gets to manage your money: your grown child, a spouse, or someone else?

Imagine discovering that a loan taken out for your adult child's education landed in someone else’s checking account. Wild, right? The hour opened with a caller who suspected her future mother-in-law of funneling student loan disbursements into a custodial account and then using that money as if it were hers. The immediate feeling was a mix of outrage and helplessness — and the advice came back firm and practical: gather the numbers, protect credit, and let the person owed take the lead.

Practical defense: documents first, drama later

When money, family and control collide, numbers kill the fantasy. Pull credit reports. Contact the schools to confirm what was actually paid toward tuition. Freeze the credit. That sequence turns suspicion into evidence and prevents further damage while you sort the truth. The hosts were blunt: a romantic partner can support, but if they aren’t willing to confront a parent who’s allegedly stealing from their adult child, that’s a relational red flag worth paying attention to before a wedding day.

Cash versus credit: the surprisingly emotional calculus of buying a car

Another caller navigated a deceptively technical question — if you can pay cash for a used family SUV, should you instead finance and keep the cash invested? Numbers were part of the answer, but not the whole thing. The hosts pushed back on the spreadsheet mentality and floated a different ROI: peace.

Peace as a legitimate return on investment

Sure, you might earn a small spread by investing while carrying a cheap loan. But the show argued that owning the car outright gives psychological margin. No monthly bill. No risk of becoming upside-down if the market or your situation changes. Dealers often prefer financed deals for bonuses, so cash can sometimes secure a better sticker price. The emotional payoff — sleeping knowing you owe no one for the vehicle — was treated like a real financial benefit.

When old relationships cost new money: divorce, ex-debt and the IRS

A caller who had divorced and been left with tax liabilities wrestled with the choice of suing an ex for a court-ordered share or just paying the IRS to remove a looming threat. This is the classic trade-off between ego and peace. Court might vindicate you on principle, but lawyer fees, time and the emotional toll can exceed the money on the table.

Two practical paths: clear the decks or get a judgment

The suggestion was surgical: if you can afford to wipe the IRS debt and move forward, consider it. But if closure and principle matter more, pursue the judgment. One clever hybrid idea landed — pay the IRS to stop the immediate threat, then pursue the ex in civil court as a reimbursement effort. That keeps the household intact while still chasing justice, if you have the stamina for litigation.

Small business growing pains, family obligations and the cost of calling a risk

Multiple callers described entrepreneurship’s brutal tradeoffs. An optometrist couple had borrowed to open a clinic in a small town and were balancing payroll, tiny patient volume and a paused loan from a relative. The counsel was crisp: measure the true monthly operating burn and treat marketing as non-negotiable — get the boat to the dock. If the business can’t scale to cover basic operating needs in a reasonable time, close the experiment and get stable employment.

Grief, immediacy and triage: what to do when death creates a financial avalanche

The most gutting segment featured a widow who’d suddenly lost her husband. Practical items were prioritized: pull credit reports, gather death certificates, and lock down the essentials — heat, water, food, transportation. The hosts promised a financial coach and offered empathetic structure. In moments like this, paperwork is painful but vital; a short season of clearing and triage prevents long-term damage.

Prioritize the four walls

  • Protect basic shelter and utilities first.
  • Don't make payment plans or big promises until you know the full picture.
  • Let a trusted friend or a coach sit with you while you sort the paperwork.

That guidance felt humane rather than doctrinaire. The show repeatedly framed money as more than math: it’s a set of permissions that opens or closes life possibilities, and it often reflects relational patterns — control, avoidance, fear, or generosity.

Taxes, retirement and when to liquidate assets

For listeners weighing whether to cash out a rental property or borrow from retirement accounts, the broadcast leaned toward selling the investment property to get immediate, clean liquidity. Borrowing or tapping retirement has tax consequences and reduces long-term security; cash from a sale can be parked in a high-yield account while plans are made. That’s boring advice, but boring is useful when everything else is chaotic.

What stuck with me

Two ideas lingered: first, peace can be a measurable financial objective. Second, relationships determine the sustainability of a plan. You can win every spreadsheet argument and still lose the marriage or the relationship with your adult child if boundaries and honesty aren’t part of the math. Some problems require forensic accounting. Others require courage at the dinner table.

Money is, it turns out, less a ledger and more a mirror. When it reflects control, theft, grief or generosity, the right next step may be legal counsel, a budget, an honest conversation or simply choosing peace — and learning to sleep at night without owing the salesperson another dime.

Key points

  • Freeze credit and pull reports immediately if you suspect family is misusing your loans.
  • Contact colleges and loan servicers to reconcile what was paid versus borrowed.
  • Paying cash for a car often buys peace and prevents being upside-down on resale.
  • Consider paying IRS obligations to stop immediate enforcement, then sue ex for reimbursement.
  • If small business burn exceeds runway, prioritize marketing or close the business quickly.
  • Selling a rental for liquidity usually beats tapping a 401(k) with tax consequences.
  • When a spouse dies, secure the four walls first and gather multiple death certificates.
  • Use practical triage: documentation, creditor calls, and a financial coach for complex cases.

Timecodes

00:00 Caller suspects mother-in-law of taking fiance's student loan funds
00:00 Cash versus financing: should you pay for a car or keep the money invested?
00:00 Man considering paying IRS debt versus suing ex for judgment
00:00 Small business owners weigh operating burn and marketing demands
00:01 A widow calls after sudden loss; hosts offer financial triage

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