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Real Estate is Getting Riskier…and It’s Making Investors Wealthy

38:31
October 22, 2025
BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast
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Real estate feels riskier — and that’s exactly the point

What if the discomfort you feel scrolling listings is actually the market’s siren for opportunity? It’s an odd mix: more inventory, nervous buyers, and headline-friendly talk about price softness. I walked away from this conversation with two takeaways that stuck: risk is inevitable, and the smart play is to manage it with precision, not panic.

Why the fear is louder now

Mortgage rates, a cooling jobs market, and rising insurance costs have nudged many would-be buyers to the sidelines. That creates a mess of headlines and a window for disciplined investors. Frankly, I was surprised by how often the speakers returned to the same theme: don’t stop investing — shift your strategy.

Vacancy: the quiet margin-eater

Vacancy isn’t an abstract statistic. It’s a cash drain you create when you run slow operations, price homes above market, or underestimate seasonal rent patterns. One month of empty rent can flip a solid year into a difficult one. The remedy sounded almost mundane — speed up turn times, underwrite conservatively, and list at a no-doubter price — yet it felt revelatory when framed as the difference between sleeping well and being forced to sell.

Concrete math beats wishful thinking

There’s a repeated refrain: underwrite to the middle, not the top. That applies to rent assumptions, after-repair value (ARV) expectations, and vacancy rates. Instead of assuming 5% vacancy because that’s the market average, plan for operational realities — tack on another few points to your vacancy line. That small math tweak is a shock absorber for the kind of short-term shocks this environment throws at portfolios.

Price to attract eyeballs

The most surprising practical tip? Price a renovated home slightly below comparable listings while making it look better. It’s simple behavioral economics: more showings equal more offers. One speaker admitted he’d rather spend a little extra on finishes that push a property into the “no-doubter” category, because a fast sale cuts holding costs and opportunity cost. It’s an elegant tradeoff between marketing and margin.

Three pillars of a risk-adjusted buy

  • Buy at a discount: Aim for deals roughly 5–10% below conservative comps so there’s built-in equity.
  • Cashflow within a year: If you can’t rent or refinance to positive cashflow within twelve months, the hold gets riskier.
  • Cash reserves and fixed rates: Have capital buffers and lock in fixed-rate financing to avoid forced sales.

That triad felt less like theory and more like a checklist I’d want my future self to follow. I liked the bluntness: if you can’t withstand a downturn for a few years, don’t build a highly-levered, high-volume portfolio right now.

Exit options are part of your underwriting

One striking line: buy things you can exit multiple ways. The favored assets were starter homes and small multifamily units that appeal to first-time buyers — properties that can either rent or be sold without exotic buyers. That optionality reduces tail risk. If selling at projected ARV doesn’t happen, put a tenant in and refinance instead. That flexibility turns paper losses into temporary blips.

Debt and duration matter

Fixed-rate debt came up repeatedly as a sleep-better decision. Paying slightly more for stability beats the scenario of a five-year ARM repricing into a corner when you need time to ride out cyclical weakness. For long-term holders, the cost of insurance against rate shock is worth the peace of mind.

Insurance: an underrated and rising expense

Insurance is no longer a checkbox. Coverage can be expensive or even hard to obtain in certain geographies, and policies sometimes fail to match your exit strategy. The practical advice was crisp: read policies, buy appropriate coverage for flips versus rentals, and consider umbrella protection for portfolio owners. That felt like an easy, real-world guardrail that many investors overlook until it’s too late.

Volume vs. selectivity

Expect slower deal volume if you adopt a conservative posture. Both speakers admitted they’re buying fewer properties but with more cushion. That discipline lowers systemic risk in your portfolio. Personally, that resonated — I’d rather own fewer, more durable assets than grow fast and hope the market doesn’t make me sell when it hurts most.

Final thought: pain creates bargains, but you must endure the pain

There’s a hard truth that cut through the conversation: opportunities come with discomfort. Buying into a market that’s painful requires vision, cashflow, and endurance. The smartest moves are small but precise: conservative underwriting, realistic vacancy and rent assumptions, multiple exit strategies, fixed-rate debt, and insurance that actually protects. Take those steps, and the present unease becomes the prelude to future gains — if you’re willing to hold on while the market finds its balance again.

Key points

  • Plan for higher vacancy rates — underwrite around 10% instead of top-market 5%.
  • Underwrite rents to median market levels, not top-of-market optimistic figures.
  • Buy assets 5–10% below conservative comps to build immediate equity cushion.
  • Prioritize properties with multiple exit strategies: rent, sell, or refinance.
  • Require cashflow within a year or have clear plan for reaching it.
  • Lock in fixed-rate debt to avoid refinancing risk and forced sales.
  • Maintain meaningful cash reserves to survive short-term market stress.

Timecodes

00:00 Introduction and framing of risk vs opportunity
00:05 Vacancy risk and operator responsibility
00:06 Practical vacancy mitigation and underwriting tips
00:15 Managing price declines and ARV strategy
00:28 Mindset: buying during market pain

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