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I Built a $12K/Month Rental Portfolio While Working 9-5

33:59
September 8, 2025
BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast
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From Pharmacy to Property: A Slow, Practical Climb to Cashflow

Pratik Shah’s path into real estate reads like a study in patience and opportunism. A pharmacist by trade, he discovered the allure of property investing by chance on a vacation to Capri, where a conversation on a boat nudged him into his first purchase in 2017. The first property was less glamorous than the story that brought him there: a three-bedroom, two-bath multifamily with inherited Section 8 tenants, a steep learning curve about maintenance, and the kinds of small crises—broken toilets, municipal summons—that teach a new landlord more quickly than any book.

Learning by doing, not by theory

Rather than chasing perfection on a spreadsheet, Shah treated his first purchase as an education. He financed with a 25% down payment, leaned on more experienced investors as mentors, and deliberately kept his W-2 job to preserve steady capital and mental bandwidth. That combination—real-world lessons plus stable income—allowed him to move through inevitable mistakes without catastrophe.

The fire that forced a pivot and taught construction

Just days before a scheduled closing in 2019, Shah received a call that would change his investor profile: the local fire inspector reported that his property had burned. With the sale dead and the unit gutted by fire and water, he had to engage insurance, interview contractors, and learn construction basics overnight. He dove into estimate comparisons, materials selection, and coordinating insurance payments with trade schedules.

It was brutal work, but the forced immersion produced a paradoxical dividend: when the market rebounded a year later the rehabbed property listed for a six-figure increase over the previous listing price. The experience retooled Shah from a passive landlord into someone comfortable managing rehabs, negotiating with insurers, and making hard decisions about repairs versus replacements.

What the repair taught him about scale

Beyond the money, the incident expanded Shah’s capabilities. He gained intimate knowledge of construction timelines, vendor vetting, and budget discipline—skills he would reuse as he diversified into new markets and, later, short-term flips with compressed timelines.

Choosing markets: the art of an inch-wide, mile-deep strategy

Shah’s portfolio grew from a single troubled building to nearly 20 units across three distinct markets: his home state of New Jersey, the Lehigh Valley in eastern Pennsylvania, and Fayetteville, North Carolina. Rather than chasing the flashiest returns, he favored markets he could understand and self-manage at first, then expand outward as experience and contacts accrued.

His method for learning an unfamiliar city was almost old-fashioned and insistently practical: print a Google map, circle promising neighborhoods, mark streets to avoid, and then lean on a trustworthy local agent to validate street-by-street intelligence. That map became a treasure map—literal neighborhoods to pursue and those to skip.

Out-of-state investing without constant travel

Shah never initially visited some markets in person. He compensated with relationships: boots-on-the-ground agents, contractors with verified references, and a trial-first approach that validated teams before committing to larger buy boxes. This approach reduced friction and let him scale while still keeping a demanding career.

Tenant selection as an investment in long-term stability

One striking episode underlines Shah’s approach to tenants. Faced with a promising applicant whose background check revealed past drug-related offenses, he chose conversation over algorithm. The applicant explained his rehabilitation and inability to secure housing due to rigid screening measures. Shah took a chance; the result was a five-year tenant who improved the property, paid reliably, and treated the home as his own.

This human-centered screening model—phone screens, gut checks, and active selection—reduced turnover and maintenance costs and reinforced the idea that good landlords build relationships as much as they manage balance sheets.

Shifting gears: when flips make more sense than buy-and-hold

As competition increased and deal spreads compressed, Shah added flipping to his toolkit. He found the short-cycle returns attractive when residential buyers were outbidding investors in hot neighborhoods. Flipping demanded different skills—speed, design decisions, and a dependable contracting team—but Shah’s forced education in rebuilding after the fire made cosmetic rehabs feel manageable. With clear specs and a trusted contractor, he could move from purchase to resale in months rather than years.

Balancing a W-2 job and active investing

Keeping full-time employment proved an asset. Regular income funded down payments and reduced pressure to force losing deals into profitability. Shah manages deals by delegating execution to vetted teams, front-loading decisions about materials and finishes so contractors can act on clear instructions. His evenings are for selection and spreadsheets; contractors handle day-to-day progress.

Portfolio posture and the next frontiers

Today, Shah’s holdings produce roughly $12,000 per month in net cashflow across his single-family and small multifamily assets. He’s experimenting with flips in the Pittsburgh area and eyeing private lending as a way to deploy capital without adding management responsibilities. His unofficial financial target is $25,000 a month in passive income—an aspirational number that drives discipline without forcing a full-time career switch.

Practical takeaways

  • Keep a reliable W-2 to fund deals and reduce urgency-driven mistakes.
  • Build a local team first—agents, contractors, and inspectors are the front line of out-of-state investing.
  • Screen tenants with conversation as well as background checks to improve long-term outcomes.
  • Use forced events—like rehabs—as skill accelerators rather than only setbacks.

Pratik Shah’s story is not a template for overnight success; it is a blueprint for durable progress. He converts setbacks into capabilities and uses the certainty of a day job to take educated risks. The arc from a chance conversation on a boat to nearly 20 doors and a new flipping business underscores a practical truth: scale in real estate often arrives through repeated decisions, relationship-building, and the willingness to learn by doing. That steady accumulation of skill and capital reshapes risk into optionality—and makes bold goals feel like the next sensible step rather than an act of faith.

Insights

  • Keep a steady W-2 income to provide capital flexibility and reduce pressure on investment decisions.
  • Treat your first property as an education: prioritize learning over immediate returns.
  • When rehabbing after a loss, align material choices with insurer allowances and resale appeal.
  • For out-of-state investing, build a vetted local team and validate neighborhoods with street-level intelligence.
  • Screening tenants personally can reduce turnover and maintenance costs compared to automated approval systems.
  • Use trial purchases to test a market before scaling substantial capital commitments.
  • Flipping can complement buy-and-hold strategies when buy-box margins compress in competitive markets.

Timecodes

00:00 Introduction and guest background
00:00 First property and inherited Section 8 tenants
00:00 Attempted sale and sudden fire before closing
00:00 Insurance claims, rehabbing, and lessons learned
00:00 Scaling into Lehigh Valley and tenant selection approach
00:00 Out-of-state investing in Fayetteville and market research methods
00:00 Pivot to flipping and balancing full-time work
00:00 Portfolio status, cashflow goals, and next steps

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