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Exhausted From Being a People Pleaser? Use THIS 0–10 Rule to Say “No” Without Guilt

43:17
October 3, 2025
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
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What if viral culture could help people feel better—and not just sell more products?

I walked into this recording with the usual curiosity about celebrity wisdom. I left struck by the blunt practicality and unexpected tenderness of Jay Shetty's thinking. He has the polished cadence of a bestselling author, yes—but his ideas land because they're anchored in simple practices and real stories.

From empty rooms to global reach

Shetty's origin story reads cinematic: a former monk who gave talks to empty college rooms while juggling a day job as a consultant. That friction—being seen by five people on a Friday night—became the laboratory for his craft. He learned patience and persistence the hard way, and those stalled starts explain why his work now feels both deliberate and generous.

The second arrow: meaning matters more than the sting

One teaching kept repeating in my head: the Buddha's "second arrow." The first arrow, Shetty says, is life wounding us—loss, betrayal, professional setbacks. The second arrow is our reflex to add awful meaning: "I'm not good enough," "They hate me."

He gives two immediate prescriptions: write a list of every hard thing you've survived to build confidence, and stop firing that second arrow by refusing to invent extra pain. Simple. Radical. It landed in the room like a lifeline.

Daily rituals that aren't flashy but work

His practical toolkit is boringly effective—daily meditation, regular exercise, disciplined eating. But the deeper replenishment comes from relationships: long-term mentors and teachers who act as reservoirs of calm. I found myself envying the steady presence he described—a 75-year-old monk who, through decades of small interactions, gave Shetty a sense of being seen.

Make wisdom go viral—seriously

Shetty riffs on an idea lifted from organizational theory: a Massive Transformational Purpose. His is "making wisdom go viral." He admits that viral once meant cats, dogs, babies, and shock value. So he set himself a stubborn constraint: get the same reach as virality without the clickbait. That tension—between craft and attention—feels like the central creative problem for anyone trying to move hearts instead of feeds.

Soul plus AI: how to stay human when the tools get smarter

His take on artificial intelligence is unexpectedly humanist. Fear of technology is normal, he says, and likely justified. But the countermeasure is not rejection—it's adding soul. AI can assist with craft, but it doesn't yet mirror lived experience the way a human storyteller can.

His little lightning line: he hopes the people using AI have a soul. That struck me as both a rebuke and an invitation: use the tools, but observe real life more closely than ever.

Stories that refuse neatness

Those two brief encounters he recounts—one a Navy SEAL who listens on deployment, the other a world-champion cheerleader paralyzed by an accident—cut through any discomfort about motivational platitudes. Michaela Noble's vibrancy despite paralysis is a jolting, humbling example of resilience. The anecdotes push the advice beyond abstraction; they make it human-sized.

Work-life balance as a scale, not a slogan

When asked how to say no without feeling selfish, Shetty offered a tactical move: create a personal zero-to-ten emergency scale. Define what a true 10 is for you, then ask where new demands land. If something is below your threshold, learn to say no. He reframed presence as the currency people actually want—ten minutes of full attention beats an hour of distracted time.

Creativity test: why children beat boardrooms

My favorite moment came with a simple exercise—the 30 circles test. Give someone 30 empty circles and 30 seconds and ask them to transform them. Adults default to numbers, lists, or tic-tac-toe. Children invent a bag of tennis balls, a bird's-eye chessboard, bubble wrap. The point is blunt: grown-up brains get efficient and linear; creativity is often a childlike sideways move.

His charge to marketers and creators felt like a dare: look at your brief with a child's eyes. What would a washing machine be if you imagined it as a time machine?

Monk life as training for adaptability

Shetty's three years as a monk still inform his psychology. Living with two robes, communal sleeping, and whatever food was given trained him to find inner stability when external circumstances were unstable. That lesson—adaptability as liberation—felt quietly radical in a culture obsessed with control.

Small rituals, big returns

There are no performance hacks here: consistent practice, a handful of mentors, and stories that refuse to be tidy. I left the talk wired and oddly soothed—convinced that small, repeated commitments matter more than viral one-offs.

What really caught my attention was how often Shetty turned high concept into a household habit: stop the second arrow, keep a presence-first calendar, look at problems like a child, and never let the algorithm replace your humanity.

There was humor too—he joked about avoiding Kanye references—and vulnerability, especially when he described being inspired by audience members. The tone was less guru and more practitioner: someone who has tested tools and keeps improving them.

Final reflection

There is an old marketing trick to make things feel urgent and new. Shetty quietly proposes a different urgency: what if the thing we spread most were calm, clarity, and courage? It feels like an improbable goal. But then again—so did turning empty college rooms into a global platform. I kept thinking: if viral can be reoriented toward compassion, what would that change about the next feed I open?

Insights

  • Write a list of every significant hardship you've survived to increase self-assurance.
  • Before accepting requests, rate them on a personalized zero-to-ten emergency scale.
  • Practice short daily rituals—meditation, movement, healthy eating—to sustain service over time.
  • When using AI, prioritize real-life observation to preserve emotional authenticity in storytelling.
  • Use childlike prompts like the 30 circles test to force lateral thinking in creative briefings.
  • Choose presence over time: offer undivided attention even in brief encounters.

Timecodes

00:04 Jay Shetty origin story and early struggles
00:06 The second arrow: reframing adversity
00:14 Making wisdom go viral and avoiding clickbait
00:24 AI, fear, and the idea of 'soul plus AI'
00:39 Monk life lessons on adaptability and inner stability
00:42 30 circles test: rediscovering childlike creativity

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